What is a 22 rifle good for?

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Young Hunter ^ 10

16.12.2007,
12:38 p.m.

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

What do you all mean ?
Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?

Frank Schaffer

16.12.2007,
12:47 pm

@ Jungjäger ^ 10

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" What do you all mean ?
“Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?

It depends on the distance.
And on the knowledge of the shooter about the limits of this caliber, as well as his own.

I would rather leave it, you can get .22mag or Hornets thrown cheaply.

Maximus

16.12.2007,
3:04 p.m.

@ Frank Schaffer

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

Hello young hunters,
you have to limit yourself to a maximum of 60 meters. At Frankonia there is a 22 mm Velocitor with a V ° of almost 500 MS Hollopoint.
Then he lies shot on the sheet.

W.H.
Maximus

Norwegian

16.12.2007,
3:31 pm

@ Maximus

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»Hello young hunters,
»You have to limit yourself to a maximum of 60 meters. There is one at Frankonia
»Velocitor 22 with a V ° of almost 500 MS Hollopoint.
“Then he lies shot on the page.
»
“W.H.
“Maximus

My experience: The HV lfbs are made of many weapons (to be precise: all of them I know, but there are certainly other experiences ...) very imprecise. long searches are preprogrammed for leaf shots, even with the HP. the same applies to a lesser extent for the .22WMR (and with that I have shot quite a few more foxes and consider this to be the limit). If, for whatever reason, I should get into the embarrassment of standing in front of a fox with just a .22lfb, I would keep upside down up to 60m (yes, yes, I know ...). as a pure fox weapon and with real chances of the fox it is absolutely not to be recommended. here in norway it is also illegal on animals the size of a hare and larger.
The lfb is a great cartridge and has 3 big advantages: price, meat protection for small game and the ability to be confined. Should silencers finally be allowed in Germany, my lfb will come out of the cupboard again ...

Magnum

16.12.2007,
6:26 pm

@ Jungjäger ^ 10

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" What do you all mean ?
“Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?


Since I shoot a lot of rabbits with the .22lfb, it has inevitably happened that a fox that has just appeared was shot at by me with the small bore rifle.

After the negative experiences predominate, I let it stay.

In my opinion, the .22 Win Mag. Is the lowest limit for a full-grown fox.
With young foxes, depending on their size, you can also achieve good results with the small ball.

Ebersberg

16.12.2007,
6:35 pm

@ Magnum

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»After the negative experiences predominate, I'll let it go.
»
“In my opinion, the .22 Win Mag. Is the lowest limit for you
“Adult fox.

Moin Magnum,

I can only confirm these negative experiences of yours. As a JJ I hunted a lot at a rabbit colony with the .22 lfb and had exactly the same experience with adult foxes. The .22 lfb is too "weak" for an old fox.

Greetings and WH
Ebersberg

Peter Dresen

16.12.2007,
9:40 pm

@ Magnum

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

“In my opinion, the .22 Win Mag. Is the lowest limit for you
“Adult fox.
»With young foxes, depending on their size, you can definitely use the small one
»Bullet get good results.


Hello Magnum,
I agree with you, although the 22 Mag. is not to be recommended either. Unfortunately, I still remember my very bad feelings when I shot at 2 rancid foxes with the 22 Mag. One evening, banned them onto the square with not bad shots and then both with a stick ... etc.
Since then only 22 Hornets !!

Greetings Peter

shotgun rust

17.12.2007,
4:31 pm

@ Jungjäger ^ 10

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" What do you all mean ?
“Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?

As a stupid Ösi, I don't know your game rules (run under "pasture justice") so well.

It is also confusing that you shoot freshlings with 9.3 to 5-10 kilos and want to spark foxes of equal strength with the sparrow rifle.

Could it be that something is wrong here?

Farmer

17.12.2007,
5:37 pm

@ flintenrost

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" " What do you all mean ?
»» Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?
»
“As a stupid Austrian, I know your rules of the game (run under
»" Pasture justice ") does not look so good.
»
»It's also confusing that you shoot at 9.3 to 5-10 kilos of newcomers and
"Want to spark foxes of equal strength with the sparrow rifle.
»
“Can it be that something is wrong here?

Hello young hunters and shotgun rust,

Shoot and hit cleanly, then 22lfb is enough up to 60 meters, HV up to 100 meters always. As a young hunter, he had good successes with it from 10 to 18 years of age.
(With a hunting license I would also prefer the Hornet. )

Greetings farmer

justus

17.12.2007,
5:52 pm

@ Jungjäger ^ 10

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" What do you all mean ?
“Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?

In my opinion, this caliber is enough Not for a fair kill, unless you are an absolute art shooter and actually hit the fox (or rabbit, etc.) right between the ribs in the heart. Head hits are no longer enough with the caliber of the fox, so they are unhealthy. And, as I said: you have to meet first!
I only use .22lfB to free a trapped rats with the mini revolver.
But I'm not a weapons expert, just a very humble practitioner.

justus

Aikon

17.12.2007,
6:04 pm

@ flintenrost

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

Hello,

I shoot my foxes caught in the box trap with the .22 lfb. I wouldn't take it with me to the hide, the .22 Hornet will come with me. But I shoot crows with the .22 lfb and have loaded a HV bullet, the disadvantage is that the .22 lfb sinks very quickly.

If you have no other weapon and can shoot the foxes at the Luderplatz at a short distance then take an HV cartridge, I think that they can be hunted down quickly.

WH
Aikon

Norwegian

17.12.2007,
6:25 pm

@ justus

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

“Headshots are enough for the caliber
“Not at all with the fox anymore, so they are not foolish.

Aha

“But I'm not a weapons expert, just a very humble one
»Practitioner.

well then!

»Justus

Norwegian

django

17.12.2007,
6:37 pm

@ justus

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

Head hits are sufficient with the caliber
»Not at all with the fox anymore, so they are not foolish.

This explanation is downright nonsense! Even stately boars fall from a close range with a 22lfb hit in the head.


And how
»Said: You have to meet first!

In my opinion, this is the crux of the truth. Who can hit the brain or the heart almost 100 percent? In addition, with a very wind-sensitive ball that falls quickly from 50 meters. If you do not get exactly the above hit zones, long escape routes are to be expected. Therefore, when hunting adult foxes, a caliber requirement from 22 horns applies!

justus

18.12.2007,
12:19 pm

@ django

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

“Headshots are enough for the caliber
»» Not at all with the fox anymore, so they are not foolish.
»
“This statement is downright nonsense! Even stately boars
»Fall with a head hit from close range with the 22lfb.

I've never tried it before. I don't want to either! And please: "nonsense" is a strong expression! Then I can kill the bass with the cane ...
My aim is to kill or redeem the wild as quickly as possible, in a way that is suitable for pasture.
»
" And how
»» Said: You have to meet first!
»
“This, in my opinion, is the crux of the truth. Who can almost
»Hit the brain or the heart 100 percent? In addition, with a very
»A ball that is susceptible to wind and falling rapidly from 50 meters. If you do not
»Caught exactly the above hit zones, is closed with long escape routes
»Calculate. Therefore, one applies to me when hunting adult foxes
»Calibration specification from 22 Hornet!

So what. You say it yourself! the .22 lfb is really not the right one for me hunting caliber. I'm not talking about catch shots for trapped game!
greetings
justus

django

18.12.2007,
1:20 p.m.

@ justus

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»
»" Nonsense "is
»A strong expression! Then I can do the bass with him
»Kill the cane ...

if you manage to break through the boar's skull with the cane (this is what the 22lfb [how practitioners slaughter Gatterwild]) then this is a viable option to kill the bass.

»
»
" So what. You say it yourself! the .22 lfb is really not for me
»Correct one hunting caliber.

We agree on this point. However, I will stick to my assessment of your statement that the 22lfb is not enough when it comes to head hits by foxes.

The critical point is that the 22lfb produces too few wound canals with other "body hits" and that the fox can be brought down more quickly with a more suitable caliber.

In terms of numbers, I shoot almost the most game in the hunting year with the 22 lfb. (55-60m pigeons, crows, magpies, rabbits ...)

Maximus

18.12.2007,
2:09 pm

@ Farmer

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»Shoot and hit cleanly, then 22lfb is enough to 60 meters, HV up to 100
“Always meters. As a young hunter, he had good results between the ages of 10 and 18
" in order to.
»(With a hunting license I would also prefer the Hornet. )
»
“Greetings Bauer

Hello farmer,
that's how I see it too. No ideal caliber clearly as a pre-young hunter Like Bauer, I had an Anschütz small bore. Shots on the leaf left the red on the target. Back then, there were no high-performance bullets like the Stinger and Velocitor.
Interestingly enough, I lost more foxes with the Hornet.
But with the 5.6 x 52 R they are all up to 200 meters. Scrap like bullet.

No matter the fox fever is the same as at a young age. Is He coming soon?

W.H.
Maximus

Mike

18.12.2007,
3:32 pm

@ Jungjäger ^ 10

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

Hello JJ,


have not read all of the answers, is not necessary, since only mine is the only true enlightener.

" What do you all mean ?

Possible yes. We used to poach the deer successfully with KK.

“Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?

Yesif you like him Not meet.
Have you read Section 1 of the Animal Welfare Act?
Answer: So is Not fair.


Good Hunting

Mike

Maximus

19.12.2007,
11:04 am

@ Mike

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

Hi mike,

“Possibly, yes. We used to poach the deer successfully with KK.

Not just in the past, but also today. This happens all the time with us.

Interesting here is one becomes puritanical, with shot the fox is fished,
Hell, no matter how big the grains are.
A 22 HV HP neatly centered through the shovel leaves the fox at the connection. Assuming a good shot and a 1 cm circle at 50 meters, the 22 will definitely hold up.
The cheese, as is often practiced, full coat at Hornet and 222 R, often lets the fox move hundreds of meters.
It's just like with other things, skills, discipline with shooting distance and choice of guns.

W.H.
Maximus

Rudiger

21.12.2007,
4:21 pm

@ Maximus

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

Hello,
the 22 lfb. is certainly a cartridge that shoots very precisely at 50 m,
with which all game occurring with us can be fatally injured.
But the effect is actually just like a pinprick.
I do not want to deny the experiences of certain shooters here, but I know that the game that is hit slowly dies.
Therefore, the thought of using the 22 lfb. on the fox
being rejected. The red coat should be the way to the eternal hunting grounds
be made easier.

Good health
Rudiger

Emirates

21.12.2007,
4:34 pm

@ Jungjäger ^ 10

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" What do you all mean ?
“Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?


Hello young hunters,

Caliber discussions can be beautiful and endless ...

My question: Why do you ask that?

My opinion: I have a repair rifle in .308Win - whatever may come - I can kill anything.
Therefore the question is superfluous!
Of course, I can understand if you are interested, because everyone can post their questions and answers in a forum - of course with decency and a nettiquette.

But can you imagine your face, e.g. you are sitting at the edge of the forest on a fox suddenly loud crack and in 80m. Distance a defector rot changes to ... ??
I can imagine a face like that ... and then looking at the gun on the barrel of which .22lfb hit ... that only happens once.
What I mean by that: Take a gun with a caliber that you can kill anything with.
And leave me the marksmen in peace


Greetings Emirates

Jaegermeister

21.12.2007,
4:45 p.m.

@ Emirates

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

“What I mean by that: take a gun with a caliber where you can do anything with it
»Can kill.

So three of a kind

Emirates

21.12.2007,
4:50 pm

@ Jaegermeister

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»» What I mean by that: Take a gun with a caliber where you can do everything with it
»» Can kill.
»
“A triplet, then


e.g.

Jaegermeister

21.12.2007,
4:52 pm

@ Emirates

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

with EL in .22 magnum

Emirates

21.12.2007,
17:00 o'clock

@ Jaegermeister

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»With EL in .22 magnum


Please read: caliber ; Gun doesn't matter

Big pill 2

21.12.2007,
6:43 pm

@ Emirates

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»» With EL in .22 magnum
»
»
" Please read: caliber ; Gun doesn't matter

So .22 Hornet, so CAN you kill everything.

Old Bavaria

21.12.2007,
7:34 pm

@ Fat pill 2

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

»
“So .22 Hornet, so CAN you kill everything.

Hello DP

also zuagroaste gray animals?

Duck and Wech

Old Bavaria

Ebersberg

21.12.2007,
7:46 pm

@ Maximus

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

“It is interesting to get puritanical here, with shot you get on the fox
»Wooded,
“Hell, no matter how big the grains are.

It is certainly not my goal to start a shotgun debate here, but one thing is a fact, you can with one shotgun each Kill European game, even a 150kg boar if it is at 25 paces. And the "grains" play a subordinate role. Ultimately, what is decisive is the coverage and the distance!

Unfortunately, the effective shotgun distance is always overestimated, with rifles different "laws" apply. The result is accompanied, slowly dying and relentless game. The legislature had to draw the line somewhere. And he just pulled them at the fox, whether you like it with freshlings, deer and Co. or not. I think it's okay that there is a limit at all.

From my point of view, the shotgun shot approved at Fuchs was enough for those who would like to use the fox hide in a meaningful way, so that's okay with me personally.
I do not want to compare a shotgun shot at a hunting distance with a shot from the .22 lfb. The former is usually fatal, the latter is "somehow" effective. I no longer shoot adult foxes with the .22 lfb!

Greetings and WH,
Ebersberg

Rocky

19.04.2008,
10:42 pm

@ Frank Schaffer

Wanted with .22lfb on fox?

" " What do you all mean ?
»» Is it fair to shoot a fox with a .22lfb?
»
“Depends on the distance.
“And on the knowledge of the shooter about the limits of this caliber, as well as his
»Own.
»
“I'd rather leave it alone, you can get .22mag or Hornets
»Thrown cheap.